Clark County Today Administrator Heidi Wetzler shares her thoughts on the repercussions of COVID-19 vaccine mandates
If I am mandated to receive a COVID-19 vaccine in order to keep my job, and subsequently experience an adverse event, who is responsible? Who is responsible if I have neurological complications, a heart attack, or a stroke and am never able to work again. Who is responsible if I die?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’ve read that neither the vaccine companies, the government entities imposing the mandates, nor the employers themselves will be held responsible in any way if the worst happens. In fact, from what I’ve seen and read so far, it will take a Herculean effort to prove that my adverse reaction was caused by the vaccine. Correlation does not equal causation, they say. But when you are counted as a COVID-19 death, correlation ALWAYS equals causation.
Recently there was a lawsuit filed against the federal government accusing the government of covering up the fact that 45,000 people have died within the first three days of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine. There are over 13,000 deaths reported to VAERS (vaccine adverse event reporting system) on the CDC website. This number is widely believed to include only 1-10 percent of the actual deaths that have occurred. And then there are hundreds of thousands of transient to severe reactions reported to VAERS. That being said, I can easily find article after article debunking the accuracy of these statistics. Anyone can report anything in the VAERS system, they say, so obviously it is not going to be perfect. But it is the ONLY avenue people have to account for their experiences. A line item on a discounted reporting system is the ONLY recourse one has when they believe they’ve lost their loved one to this “safe and effective” vaccine.
If the validity of every single one of these adverse events is going to be questioned, then can someone please direct me to the “verified” information? Where can I find the non-refuted deaths, heart attacks, blood clots, and neurological problems that HAVE been associated with the vaccine? You can’t expect the general public to believe there are zero. So where is the data? In my mind, for each doctor, government official, and layperson to claim that these vaccines are safe, the risk of death needs to be zero. The risk of an adverse event needs to be zero. If that is not the truth, then the truth needs to be spelled out in black and white. Where is it? Informed consent. Where is it?
I’ve heard the following argument for getting the vaccination a nauseating amount of times. The argument is that the deaths and risks from the vaccine pale in comparison to the deaths from COVID-19. If you knew ahead of time that you or your child were going to die from this vaccine would your heart be comforted by the fact that “so many more people died from the virus?” This debate is illogical on a personal level. This is a decision that should be based on each and every one of our own personal risk and benefit analyses. Speaking of children, in the 2017-2018 flu season 643 children died. To date, 332 children have died from COVID-19. Mass vaccinating children with an experimental product, who are at little-to-no risk of harm from this virus, is in my opinion, grossly negligent.
There is now compelling evidence that the vaccinated spread the virus with the same viral load as the unvaccinated. So what the heck does it matter if I get the vaccine or not, if it is not protecting the people around me at all. The argument that the vaccinated are protecting the unvaccinated is moot. Why are the same ineffective vaccines still being pushed? And now there is talk of boosters. Government contracts perhaps.
Another argument is that the unvaccinated are getting sick more often and taking up hospital bed space. I’ve heard the opposite as well. The truth is elusive. To this I say, 78 percent of those who have been hospitalized with COVID-19 are overweight or obese. As many as 95 percent of those who die are obese. So before we blame the unvaccinated for hogging up all of the hospital bed space, let’s first blame the obese. But that’s not appropriate to mention. It’s much more acceptable to call those that are concerned about the side effects of the vaccine, selfish and deserving of death. Additionally, 80 percent of those that get COVID-19 have low Vitamin D levels in their body. How about we focus on this metric and see if we can drastically reduce the number of those that are becoming ill? But there’s no money to be made on Vitamin D.
I have watched countless videos, and read many more stories from health care professionals as well as individuals who believe these vaccines are causing grave harm. And this is only in the first year. Many more virologists, doctors and scientists purport that the majority of the deaths are still to come due to clotting, antibody dependent enhancement and a general weakening of the immune system. And the coming boosters will increase these risks. This information continues to be censored and suppressed. I’ve written in this space before about the global suppression of early treatment options and how 85 percent of those who have died from COVID-19, died needlessly without the aid of effective early treatment.
And why in the world are we not talking about natural immunity? Testing for natural immunity? Accepting it as an alternative to the vaccine? Natural immunity is robust and durable. They say “we don’t know how long it lasts.” Well then I hope they are testing vigorously to find out. We already know the vaccine is failing before natural immunity. Conservatively, 100 million Americans have been exposed to this virus and are therefore immune. Those who had SARS-CoV-1 in 2002-2003 were still immune 17 years later, and those who survived the influenza pandemic of 1918 were still immune to the H1N1 outbreak in 2009-2010 a stunning 92 years later. Why is this conversation non existent? Especially when we are at a crossroads between those who are willing to get the vaccine and those who aren’t. My family has already had the virus and under normal circumstances, the medical community would agree that we are now most likely immune. For some reason natural immunity through infection is all of a sudden questioned.
You aren’t being forced to get the vaccine, they say. You just can’t have a job they say. Well if that’s not medical coercion, then please tell me what is. Most people need to make money to eat.
Lastly, there is the issue of variants. Variants of viruses with animal reservoirs such as COVID-19 will exist until the end of time. They will never go away. I’ve read that vaccinating during the height of a pandemic causes stronger variants. The virus has not had a chance to weaken, which normally takes 2-3 years. The vaccine is applying non lethal pressure to the virus, which is encouraging the creation of stronger variants. This could help to explain why we have a nation with a fairly high vaccination rate, dealing with a strong variant.
If my choice to not get vaccinated, ends up with me dying from COVID-19, then that has been my choice. That should remain my choice. No one needs to protect me from myself. In all honesty, I am terrified of the vaccine. Just as many are terrified of COVID-19. We need to demand the adverse event statistics they are gathering and refusing to release. This is a continuing trial period, so you know they are tracking everything and have copious data. People are hesitant because calling it completely safe is irresponsible and untrue. The suppression of known risks is nothing less than malfeasance from our government and medical professionals. We won’t know the gravity of this experiment for 10 years or more.
As long as 480,000 Americans die from tobacco-related illnesses each year, and we still have tobacco products on the store shelves, you will never convince me that the government cares about my health. Which is fine by me. That’s freedom. This is about power and control that they never want to relinquish and it will take every single one of our voices to overcome that.
Also read:
Opinion: We should be questioning the global suppression of early treatment options for COVID-19
I totally agree with her statement and positition
I wish this article would have touched on the corruption of pharmaceutical companies, they will never have our best interest in mind. Pfizer for example is a “habitual offender” persistently engaging in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribing physicians and suppressing adverse trial results. Since 2002 the company and its subsidiaries have been assessed $3 billion in criminal convictions, civil penalties and jury awards.
I strongly encourage you to write an opinion piece on this subject and submit it for publication. This sounds like important information for our readers.
Thanks!
I would love to hear Your opinion on Ivercrmtin treatment for preventative and positive Covid patients. The data shows It’s extremely successful! This medicine is widely available and is already fda approved for treating Conditions like parasites and other skin conditions. Other countries are using it and has 98.9 success rate. Other than that not being financially beneficial for Bug Pharma I’m not sure why it’s not being spoken about?
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We’ve written about this recently. Thank you for your interest!
https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/is-ivermectin-a-safe-way-to-fight-covid-19-as-delta-variant-cases-rise/
I know a Dr. in the US that helps out patients ,they go home in no time,,,and he dosent let them go to hospital…Dr.Vldimir Zelenko, he is well known. An amazing man, who many look up to…he also uses Ivermectin,,and more…
Where is he located?
He is in Monroe, New York but if he is licensed to practice in your state you can contact him for a telemedicine appt here:
https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/about/ however wait times could be long. Another option are the protocols I-MASK+, MATH+, or I-RECOVER which you can find at Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/how-to-get-ivermectin/
Here they also provide a list of medical professionals who are also available for telemedicine appointments.
I saw an interview where he said he was in upstate New York.
There is no such thing as a Delta Variant and for sure NO WAY to test for it!!! SO. How then can the Media focus the fear NOW, on HOW rampant and dangerous this Delta is?
Their CEOs won’t even take the so-called vaccine. They know better!
Where are you reading this. Ceo of Pfizer now fully vaccinated.
pfizer has ties with the Wuhan Lab, Fauci and Obama were their in 2017 in which Obama donated over 2mill.to the Wuhan lab. The virus was manf.in the lab, and covid was intentionally released on us, I wouldn’t believe nothing Pfizer said. Trust me a lot more going on behind this than u realize!! Getting rich on a vaccine and depopulating at the same time!! Bill Gates has a hand in it as well. Do some research!!
Yes, all correct, I did my research. Came up with the same info.
Darrell,
You are spot on people really need to be informed on what is really happening here!
Google:
“who paid the largest fine in history and why?”
Its going to surprise you. Some pharmas will go to great lengths to make a profit.
Smugly dishes out medical advice and tells others to “do some research”…
…spells at a fifth grade level.
I believe the phrase is “only in America”.
So exactly “where ” did you go to do this research !!?? That’s a very important question? To your normal place of info !? The gov depts , or the CDC , or who , or FDA !? Or did you actually do real research outside of those areas serving this government operators !? I bet not at all !! The information for research cannot come from the already paid by gov, medical depts, Gates, FAUCI , Soros , Zuckerberg , or other so called millionaire person who support the vaccines ! That’s not research ! Your just going back to the source of the liars who are all in position to gain financially from the sale ,manufacturing , distribution , and other related vaccine areas !! You can only get real info on the complete situation by doing actual research , as we can clearly see you have not ! As with all people who prefer lies to the painful truth, you do not want to know that very painful truth ! Here’s one you cannot hide from …. These vaccines have NOT been tested ! Not at all , they have not been proven safe ! You are their lab rat ! That goes against the Nerumberg Code !! Now , go look that one up ! By the way , the punishment for that , is , DEATH !!
Why would you cast insults. Interesting, you’ve successfully proven it’d be better to spell incorrectly then prove to be an jerk! And should you fail to understand, as I’m most positive you will, where the hell do you see the commenter, “dishing out medical advice?” So actually your an jerk and an IDIOT! What was your point anyway! Were you needing attention? Regardless Sherlock, many will notice you now!
Go find the Troll site! Oh… and should there not be one, take then lead!
There is a whole lot more to this. You’re correct. It should b obvious to even Ray Charles by now
How do you know this? Did you see his vax card? As much as they have lied I wouldn’t believe his “word”
Probably saline along with all the other virtue-signaling elites
How can you sure that he take the vaccine. He can easily manipulate he own the pfizer
Im with Heidi. I will not take one willingly. I believe its made to depopulate the world, & make sheep out of people by having them under subjection to the govt. I would bet that the ruthless leaders only take a saline shot if they take one in front of the public trying to encourage others of their safety.
No they aren’t. Just saying they are for PR purposes.
Exactly. Just like Fraudci told his staff in the lab. “Do not take the vaccine”.
When asked why by one of his employees, Fraudci got angry.
He claimed he had too much $$ and time invested (our $ btw) to allow his team to die from them.
This was a whistle-blower that recorded the conversation.
Crazy, it’s not allover the internet, instead it’s been banned.
Banned just like Fraudci claiming how effective Iverictim is in treating SARS when it was around.
Now he denies both after thousands have seen the videos.
No where to be found now.
He did say he didn’t need to take it.. ‘I am a healthy 55 yr old not at risk’. Do you really believe he’s taken the Pfizer jab knowing the marketing optics on his position?
Want to bet?
Wonder why as he admitted the Vax “has little to no efficacy” but promised the next Booster will be better ?
Nor with the wealthy amongst us. Didn’t you see Nancy Pelosi give a speech in Napa, California with a large group of her sponsors paying $30 thousand for a plate of food. NONE of them were wearing masks, and “social distancing” was seen no where there.
She is absolutely one of the most evil and horrific persons on planet earth. Ole Nance and Joe are not ghb oing to make Heaven they proudly like to boast of!!!
Nobody is as evil as Trump. He is and was sent by the devil.
Trump isn’t evil…the ones in the Washington are…Biden, Hilary, Nancy, several others. They are the evil ones. Quit listening to the media, they lie like dogs!!
It was outdoors, everyone was tested. I hang outdoors unmasked untested. What’s the big deal?
The big deal is “Rules for Thee, But Not for Me!”
Who are you referring to? The Pfizer CEO didn’t take it at first because he wasn’t in the age group and didn’t want to butt in line. That was in December of 2020, but he took it in March of 2021.
You actually bought that line of garbage? Right……the billionaire risked death to make sure some unknown old person got the jab first…..WAKE UP MAN
He never got it, it’s not safe , and he knows it mRNA vaccines suuuuuck!!
I doubt the ceo of a company that has paid 3 billion in settlements and fines cares about waiting in line for anything. He had made millions since Covid started. He may be one of the few who gets paid to get the vaccine. To him it may be worth it. Now that’s he’s severely profiting on this atrocity.
HUH?? Um, yes Gloria there is a way to test it’s called genomic sequencing. Different to PCR, but this is how variants are tracked. Positive tests are run through genomic sequencing to identify the source and variant in an outbreak, and determine stats.
Yes but, genomic sequencing isn’t widely available. Most places where people are getting tested (unless it’s a genome sequence lab) do not have capabilities for genomic sequencing lab tests and therefore don’t have the means to properly test chemical makeup of differing variations of a virus. So…. If the symptoms look exactly the same and they are in fact using the PCR tests, because that’s all they have available, then how can the general clinicians and even hospital ER’s tell you it’s a specific variant above another with absolute certainty? The answer is, they can’t.
As someone who recently got out of the hospital with Covid, my doctor told me “he could not tell me which variant I had”. He said there was no way for him to tell. And they send them off and never get the results. Trust no one. There’s way too much money involved in all of this.
Yeah, no way for him to test, because genomic testing takes a specific set of tools that not all hospitals or labs are equipped with. Explain to me how this relates to “money being made” off COVID? I don’t trust “no one”—I trust people trained to do this work. What I don’t trust is your logic.
Since the vaccine contains “zero” attenuated covid virus,how can it be a vaccine? The vax also contains a computer-designed spike protein that “looks like” the one on the surface of the virus, but is a pathogen (specifically created through gain of function research to be fatal to humans) which is responsible for the clotting/epithelial and heart damage/neurological issues/spontaneous heavy bleeding/etc. and yes, Antibody Dependent Enhancement. Every person who has received an mRNA vax is a walking spike protein factory. This vax which was injected into muscle does NOT remain there, and most certainly enters your organs, your blood vessels, and crosses the blood-brain barrier. When the vaxxed come in contact with Covid, their body may not show symptoms and if they are tested in the early days of the illness nothing will be detected on a PCR test. Just look at the travelers in and out of South Africa that passed their tests yet within days developed symptoms and tested positive. That means even with triple-vaccinations, and PCR testing, they still potentially passed the virus to others. The un-vaxxed, however, will not have their symptoms masked, and will not be able to “unknowingly” make others sick. They will also have the advantage that their natural immune system will never need a booster.
So every positive covid test is genomic sequenced? can we find the marker info somewhere?
My coworker is back from having covid. He said they could not test for any variant and they have no idea. He also mentioned both his fully vaccinated inlaws had worse symptoms than he and his wife who are not vaxd
They never had an isolate of a novel virus. They admitted as much from very beginning when the scientist tasked with designing a test asked for it,they plainly said there was no isolate of novel virus available,so they ran out a genome sequence on computer model. Same way they came up with 10s of millions were gonna die.
They don’t have a way, 9 days of having my blood drawn for tests in the hospital.. my records state “suspected variant” ..they didn’t know
And as we know, genomic testing can come up with the tiniest fragments of any illness one ever had!
There’s only one fda approved Covid test, and it’s the least used test not available to me. Could not procure one.
And what medical school did you graduate from 🤣
consider some common sense Melissa! Is concern for this gaslighting a big joke to you?
I don’t think you know what gaslighting means. You don’t have a medical degree, so she can’t be gaslighting. Gaslighting involves making someone think they’re crazy, by making them question their reality. She’s just pointing out that your “common sense” isn’t actually that. If you had attended medical school, or were a epidemiologist—shoot, even a lab tech—you’d know why what you think you know is false. But instead, you read “articles” like this one, full of conjecture and half truth, and think you have the answers.
I’m disgusted with this whole mess. Why don’t we take these useless tax and spend politicians, put them on a beta test to Mars, they can all screw each other over and tell us what to do from there. Wouldn’t have to worry about that new fence around that domed bldg. They can populate the place all they want. We can stand around, drink coffee, wait on our next check and smile&nod when they call for a vid conf. Come on Elon, you know you’re my hero, big boy.
Yall both have been “gaslighted”seriously. Just Google “Died Unexpectedly”
I would also. E interested in where she hot her medical degree.
Would you also. E interested in that, Dee? Well I’d. E interested how your critical thinking skills became so flawed.
Could the “Delta Variant” be a title manufactured by someone to cover up a failed vaccine? Blackrock and Vangaurd the top two major investors in the vaccines have a lot to lose if this vaccine fails. I would love to see the dna markers proving a variant but you cannot find that information. Also, if the variant is real does it too contain CGG-CGG sequence? This vaccine seems to have failed yet it is still being over promoted. Great Article!
They approved Blackrocks vax today. So everyone who said no because none were approved by the FDA, now have a reason not to take the “one”. I felt all along it would come down to 1. Now it has.
The FDA doesn’t do any of the testing for drug approval. NIH does and provides its findings for FDA approval.
Christine Grady is the Head of NIH Bio Ethics. Can you guess who her spouse is?? Coincidence??? 🤨
Andrew Faucci!!!
Who the fuck is Andrew Fauci? If you’re gonna slander the man, at least get his name right. Better yet, just don’t say anything, because you haven’t a clue what you’re on about.
Neither does he, big pharma boy. Wonder where I can get an abortion pill for real cheap? I’m sick of the opioids and my kids scarf up the edibles faster than Little Joey can throw you under a bus
Funny how people believe everything they read. What was the source of that information, a Reddit thread? First of all, these claims are totally false. Secondly, she is a highly-educated PHD-holding woman and did not earn her spot at the NIH by coincidence. Reducing her to “Fauci’s wife” is demeaning and misogynistic. She is highly qualified for her position. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/30/fact-check-faucis-wife-has-no-role-vaccine-approval/5616304001/
Fauci himself is highly qualified on paper, but in reality, nobody could have done a worse job predicting what was coming and guiding us through this. He’s grossly incompetent at best, and deeply evil and corrupt at worst. But the point of mentioning that his wife is in that position is just to illustrate that the entire system is corrupt and all connected. It has nothing to do with her gender. And specifically, what claims are false? Provide the facts. Is that not her position?
I provided a link above. That is her position, but she does not contribute to the FDA approval process. Whoever claimed that in the first place had no source.
which position is she in now? Last time I saw her, she had her legs pinned back like a Christmas turkey and talking gobble gobble down on Lolita Isle with Killary
Yes it’s Fuaci !! That person who is in charge for telling America what it should do with their health !!!
The approved shot does not even exist. It will be manufactured by a partner company in Germany sometime in the future. There is no approved vaccine period.
Would love to see a source for this pile of horseshit.
Informed Consent. Due Process 👍👍
Just because ” THEY” approved some thing doesn’t ever mean it’s safe ! As testing a vaccine takes years before it can be used on the public ! It has not been years !! And when I say years ..your looking at ten years on average ! Like on Rats !! Not humans ! Last time I looked in my mirror I didn’t see a rat looking back at me !
Blackrock and Vanguard? You do realize they are investment managers (i.e., you give them money and they invest it) and thus, they don’t have an ownership stake in any pharmaceutical company. They make money by taking a annual fee for their services of managing your money. BTW, Blackrock and Vanguard run the largest index funds in the world and thus, you’ll see their names everywhere with respect to public company “ownership”, however, the real owners are individual investors who the Index funds they manage.
I know a person who has no immune system who lived through the supposing Delta variant. 20 days it took but no jab.
Doesn’t kill everyone, dummy. She’s lucky to be alive.
yall gotta calm down, there’s enough of that poisonous shit to go around. Sure am glad I took that job as crash test monkey for Kawasaki last year…I dont have time to worry about it. Like to hurry up every chance I get. Last crash of the day…my turn to poke the pig down at Big Berthas Topless Car Wash & Saloon, I love working on the weekends.
She would have recovered faster if she were healthier. Covid mainly kills elderly and unfit and fat people. Everyone else just gets a cold or flu for a couple days.
this is completely incorrect, they can map the genome of the virus you have and tell exactly what variant you have.
Sorry. To find the exact variant it has to be sent a specified state lab for genome testing.
Even the Sars Cov-2 has never been isolated!
Lie.
Yes, and it happens during a second run of the positive swab. They can now rapid test for positivity … the swab is then tested for variant to track the movement of the virus.
I’m surprised this has any upvotes. People here do not seem interested in facts. Just conjecture. But yes, of course, you are correct.
It’s all bullshit made up by the left side! These people are all satanic and have had this plan to kill us for years! Just look up about the Georgia stones that was erected in Georgia by the new world order assholes!! It tells there plan about the future they want! Depopulated to five hundred million by any means!! Number one Covid vaccine!!
Whoa. Seek therapy.
That’s BS! I have close family that works at the local Health Department. They send samples off and they come back as to which variant it is.
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Thank goodness a few people on here are telling the truth.
No one is going to care because Ole’ Joe just made the whole world a very dangerous place! It’s called terrorism and in Bible Prophecy America is not on the world stage and I wonder how God was going to take us off while the others take over Now We Know! People please listen get saved and Know Christ the Rapture of all Believers is imminent! I pray for all people to come to know our Risen Savior but sadly many do not! Pray!😊✝️🕎
Jesus Christ is Lord Thank you Jesus for saving us from are selves
Ourselves. He needs to save you from your grammar.
My best friend is a doctor—you folks using Jesus as your vaccine are begging for their shot once they’re told they’re dying from Covid. It’s heartbreaking. Your “Risen Savior” hasn’t a thing to do with this pandemic.
Isn’t there a BLM rally or a trans parade you should be at? A young naive, impressionable and vaccinated Greta Thunberg like yourself with all this debating prowess surely must have bigger fish to fry. Or… and this is just me spitballing here. Your comments sound impulsive, poorly formed and immature. So I don’t think your getting anywhere. And not just in life. I meant in this forum.
Oh snap! That was a great response to the troll!
Simple, they lie!
You can test through a PCR which is done via randomly selected samples. However, you usually will never know yours was among them. My brother happens to run a lab which is the only way one might find out 😉.
Delta is currently the reining variant in the US, accounting for approximately 98% of cases tested since August. That is quite a difference from Jan 2021.
Mu-uuuuve over, Delta, Gamma, and Beta! Mu is the baddest belle of the ball this side of the firmament’s divide.
Mu has the ability (“they” say “potential”) to evade the immune response in both convalescent and vaccinated sera! Both vaxxed and unvaxxed are in trouble. Mu is now in all 50 states.
Granted, many variants form and many are outshined by more contagious or more deadly versions, but Mu is deadly. Time will soon tell if it becomes the next delta. But, I think it just might. There are currently only around 2400 cases, but, that may change. Or…may not! Again, only time will tell.
Why are you Suggesting something that is used to treat Worms, for something that is a respiratory tract infection? I would also think you would make mention of other pre-existing issues patients had that was the actual cause to them dying. Just because they had COVID-19 and died, doesn’t mean they died because of that? If that is the thought then I could easily say that people that died from Cancer, didn’t die because of Cancer, but because of their Asthma. Its Ridiculous, no matter what is said and done people will fight. The main point is that the World is affected and fighting this Disease. Just like all other Diseases that can spread, we have Vaccines for them, Scientists are trying to figure out the best way to fight it. Regardless if we can find people that have a natural immunity to or not is hard.
Its Ridiculous to say that this is Our Freedom that is being affected. Its not, This is something that everyone is going through. There’s no issue if you have to present your Vax Card for school or when your kids go to school is there? There’s no violation of rights if its the same all across the board. You can still out out and do the shit you need to so. yea, its limited, but Just wear a mask, if a Store asks to wear a mask, regardless if you have been vaccinated for Covid or not, that’s their Business and their right to request it, and their Right as the Business to refuse you service, its a Public Business, but their business and have the right to say no. Just as the signs used to say “No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service”. This isn’t a Discrimination against anyone, it just the store owners running their business as they see fit. I am sure there is no skin off their teeth if you don’t use their services or products. Just as if you wanted to have your business and not allow people with Masks on, just don’t go there then. But know the virus and any for that matter, doesn’t care who you are.
If you use sun screen while out on a Sunny day (The Beach, Race Track, etc…) to help prevent Skin Cancer, then wear a mask, its a similar ideal to aiding you not getting the virus. Just as Sun screen can’t 100% prevent you getting Skin Cancer, the mask is affective with helping. Everyone has their options, this is mine. All I ask is research and have open ideals to watching, reading different articles and such and just think about this. It can’t be gotten rid of without the help of everyone just like Measles and rubella and similar diseases that have been handled with Vaccinations.
All of us are tired of this, we just want it to be safe.
Mike, it’s a virus. It doesn’t go away. It’s not like “measles and rubella and similar diseases.” The vaccines do NOT prevent the virus; they claim only to lessen the symptoms. This is in contrast to, say, a smallpox vaccination which prevents the disease. This is here to stay; fortunately, viruses weaken as they age.
Again, the main point is that NONE of these vaccines prevent a person from getting Covid. None.
The vaccines do prevent contraction of the virus actually, hence the reported efficacy of 95%. They don’t ‘guarantee’ you won’t get it, and that is the same as any vaccine, contrary to what you have falsely claimed. No vaccine or drug is 100% effective. No process in general is 100% effective or efficient – that’s impossible. But your chances of contracting the virus are drastically reduced when you are vaccinated. Data shows that +90% of people getting the virus right now are unvaccinated, because even if vaccinated people contract the virus, the symptoms are so mild they don’t know they have it.
Isn’t that the case before the vaccine came along as 99.7% of infected people recovered and 90% of them didn’t even know it or feel it. Talk about distorting the truth.
And who wrote that data !? That’s the most important issue ! Cannot be trusted !!!
Ummm… no Julie. Sorry. It doesn’t always prevent infection, but it absolutely does protect against infection for the majority of people with a vaccine. To say it “does NOT” prevent infection is a straight-up falsehood. Not sure where you heard that. Care to share your source?
Thanks Mike! Nice to see someone with the right information here!
You would not be tired or fighting if you knew the Bible. Pestilence, Weather such as floods, fires, tornadoes and much more around the world in places you would never expect landslides and earthquakes are going to salvage the West. This is NOTHING compared to the Wrath or judgment he will put down during The Great Tribulation! So before the Great Tribulation can happen Christ will sound trumpets that only Believers will hear that is The Rapture we Believers do not go through the Great Trib. So know Christ he is the only way! We are the generation to live out Bibical Prophecy for Believers it’s exciting knowing we are going home but for those who do not know what is happening it is a very scary time. I pray for you all to know Christ he came for The World however a lot did not accept his gift of SALVATION and are lost and will be forever.
In his service,
Diane
Jesus Christ is Lord Thank you Jesus for saving us from are selves
ALL medicines have to go through 10- 15 years of study and trials before they are approved by the FDA to use for the specific disease, disorder or malady THEN they CONTINUE to study it because NOW there are other individuals outside of the study groups that have all sorts of other medical conditions not included in the study/ test groups and interactions with other drugs etc… (then sometimes these drugs get removed from the market because of new data) AND THEY EXPECT US TO LINE UP LIKE SHEEPS BEING LED TO SLAUGHTER FOR A VACCINE THAT WAS “CREATED” IN A MATTER OF MONTHS!!!!! I personally have several auto immune disorders which basically means my immune system is confused and attacks itself and I’m just supposed to HOPE this vaccine doesn’t create havoc.. NO THANKS
Look up yourself how long they have been working on RNA technology. 50 years, not a few months.
and it hasn’t produced an effective vaccine in 50 years… !!
This is true , the Supreme Court of the U.S. even put out a statement saying exactly that because the vacs have not yet been properly tested for years ! That’s why parents can legally refuse school vaccines ! It because of that very fact !!
Yes I listen to the two hour long interview with Doctor Malone , who was the scientist that worked on the creation of that vaccine ! And your wrong ! He even says don’t take it ! He is being censored because he speaks out against it ! It was put together for the military , but has never been properly tested ! Was not made for this virus today ! But hey … I guess ” he” doesn’t know what he’s talking about either according to ” you “!!!
I’m with you dear ! I have Lupus ! No way could you make me take any vaccine !!! Not even their flu vaccine ! The only time I ever got sick with flu like symptoms was after a flu shot ! And not was I sick !! Even today my dumb doctor tried to push me to take it !? I don’t know what his problem is !? He wants me to take that lousy virus vax ! I just laughed at him !! I had that virus , and now I’m immune , thank you very much ! By the way , I am 72 years old ! I survived without doctors help !?
Are you really asking why? I’d think you’d have figured it out by now—these folks have been thoroughly steeped in horseshit for two years straight. Now they have those “worms” you speak or in their brains. But thanks for the cogent remarks! Not much of that going on here.
I don’t read anything hear about masks. Whether they work or not people are wearing them. The problem is when you have a governor like Newsom who mandates mask wearing and distancing only to be seen dining at one of the most expensive restaurants in the state not following his own mandates. Or when our president says he won’t trust a vaccine created under the Trump administration and that he doesn’t trust the FDA while mandating that I get the vaccine or lose my job. Do you not see the hypocrisy? Do you truly believe that this virus isn’t man made? Maybe it was released by accident but boy does one have to be awful trusting to think that it’s all a coincidence. Everything is about money and it always has been and always will. Money equals power and control and the more they have the more they want.
Ivermectin has been used for other things besides worms honey ! Read something beside the trash out out by government stooge’s ! My goodness it’s sold in some countries over the counter ! You must be a lefty as you just ate to hear opposition to your perceived imaginations !! Come on wise up !! Never take all of your info from one source !! Good research rules !!!
you know that is a deworming medicine right? covid19 isnt a worm…..
And this is where misinformation runs rampant.. I am a horse person.. yes, I give Ivermectin for worms to my horses…in their animal dosed form. However, I was treated at a young age with Ivermectin. It is considered a human wonder drug that treats so many things. Nobel prize winner for it. Please read the MEDICAL REPORT from Feb 2011. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/. The news has misinformed you. May I suggest a possible reason why a parasite drug works so well? But don’t start a conspiracy theory please cause I am not an expert, I just research sources other that news article to find the facts. But in this case I will use big news thoughts on where this virus came from. Simply a bat or bat virus..? Hmm. Drug for parasites, virus thought to come from bats (with or without parasites who knows?) If I’m in the hospital dying from covid give me one of those doctors. Not the ones who can’t use common sense and think for themselves and do some RESEARCH THEN ASK ME FOR MY CONSENT! Don’t force me or threaten my livelihood.
I know you get all your news from cnn. Billions of doses to humans in the last 50 years . Nobel prize awarded to the inventor. A drug with antiviral properties is reduced to horse dewormer by freaking Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon and Scotty P. You guys should work together more often.
All Pharmas need to make their money…
AT the expense of our lives?
file:///home/chronos/u-6cd58e7713b1df6f8aea8f1b1beaaebaca387180/MyFiles/Downloads/609be2d665a92ea5cf61191f_Review_of_the_Emerging_Evidence_Demonstrating_the.4202.pdf
Wish this could be opened!! Could you please email another link?
The cure and we need it to be in every drug store!
Just used Ivermectin to get through COVID and it was a game changer for me. I am very thankful to have been able to connect to a doc that was pro-Ivermectin because they are few and far between.
How can we find a local Dr that will give you a prescription for Ivermectin?
Try to find a pharmacy that will fill it, even if your doctor writes it😎
Our pharmacy told my husband to get a script , and they would gladly fill ivermectin !! Only my doctor is an idiot and has no time he says to read research !!!?
America’s Frontline Doctors
https://www.exstnc.com/?fbclid=IwAR3Lknw9F0EbhyIjxRby_MDdkHl2P5f-xw23ZXYDUrY5aLRAx1MJl1eAkIU
Front Line Doctors has a list.
I guess I’ll have to research that as any address like emails doesn’t work from here ! So If another virus “gets out” We will have something to fight it with !! Can’t trust hospital’s anymore !! They get paid extra thousands of dollars for every death certificate that list COVID as the cause of death ! How do I know this , well nurses , doctors and whistle blowers all tell the same story over the last year and a half , so numbers and sources count to me ! Yep I believe it !!!
It was spoken about when Trump was in office and they shut him down. If there is an alternative to the mnra shot then they can not give it. Only if nothing else is available. That is clear here. Nothing Trump created still remains.
Better yet, simply go to http://www.globalresearch.ca. Many worldwide medical specialists have extolled its virtues. Currently, parts of India have started using this treatment, while sueing an Indian doctor at WHO for her malfeasance in distributing numerous lies about all these “vaccines.”
Big Pharma can’t make money on therapeutics or vitamin C, D3, Zinc, hydroxychloriquin, intervectim. Or remdesavere. Ask your Dr
To write you a script incase you have symptoms if he say’s no get a new Dr.
Parasites in farm animals. The side effects are horrible !!! And people getting really sick already . Also covid isn’t s parasite !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s ok tho thin out the herd . Let the stupid die off
LMAO!! I find it fascinating that the very people who called me a “sheeple” are now using a medication specifically designed for sheep in order to avoid the CV-19 inoculation. May I suggest you call your local poison control center before doing anything rash?
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
Oh wait, I forgot, the CDC is part of the global conspiracy. ::laff::
Yes dear it is part of this unfortunate global Kabal !! How else will they get control of a whole world !? Get poor dumb sheep to believe that scary lie about a virus that can only be cured with a crazy yet untested shot , that still doesn’t do that , and destroy all evidence of a very cheap easy drug that’s been on the market for 40 years , and has no serious side effects ! Works fast ..but no body will get rich or famous with it’s use ! And that extremely honest TV news shows talking heads gives the drug an ugly story dumb sheep believe it because they heard it on TV !!? From trusted talking heads ! Ok they are not doctors !! But their nice !! Yeah ! That’s the ticket !! Oh who cares if people like Gates , Soros and others like Zuckerberg gives them millions upon millions to tell this story !! Money talks ! Don’t you know that !? Who cares if the doctor …Malone , who made that vaccines says do not take it , and then they censor him ! Yeah !! I’m sure he’s just lying !! Ok ! Sure ! But God didn’t make me a sheep , thank God !! Hehehehe ! So I have a brain who questions everything I put into my body ! Like I would think anyone who has a brain should do !! No !? Why not !? My mommy didn’t birth a fool !!!
Its not being considered because the EUA for the vax is only valid if there are no other preventative treatments available…
But Hydroxychloriquin and Ivermectin was available and shown to work , well before that awful yet untested vaccine was put out there as a ” maybe fix”!? So which came first !? That’s easy !! Not the vaccine ! So those drugs where available first ! By your own words … Should have been used first ! Not the later yet untested vaccine ! ( By the way that RNA vaccine was not developed for this virus ! It was an experiment designed by the Scientist Doctor Malone for a military use (Incase of germ warfare by the way !) So it was not yet tested on humans or tested at all before this virus !! So it still breaks the Nerumberg Code ! The punishment for that is still Execution !! FACT !!!
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/45000-people-die-covid-19-vaccine/
You should screen your information more carefully before your mreaders are mislead.
“Snopes”, give me a break. If YOU do some research you will find who all these so called “fact checkers” really are and who they are paid by.
Yes Snopes is actually run by the media- so whatever the media is claiming to be true is what snopes supports.
Even a stopped analog clock is right twice a day!
I love when people try and get on their liberal soap box quoting snopes ….that’s like using MSNBC as your Guage for truth telling.
I did my own calculations based upon CDC data and determined the 45,000 was not at all credible. I am not a doctor or a scientist. I can do simple math and usually know when something does not pass the smell test. Forget Snopes! That misinformative figure, 45,000, should not have been included in a serious article about the vaccines. Our objective should be to seek the truth as opposed to scaring people to our side of a debate. For those who remain unconvinced, here is a better explanation of where that imaginary figure of 45,000 originated.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/07/fact-check-anonymous-whistleblower-did-not-document-45000-dead-from-covid-vaccine.html
I understand where she was coming from. Maybe some don’t care about poor people and elderly who do not have access to VAERS, but I do. No-one is checking with those folks, are they?
Really now, stop being on a side. People are being scared out of their minds no matter which side of this issue they are on.
Imho none of the facts bear out to ANY truth. Every single medical situation is completely different because of genetics, diet, environment and lifestyle.
All a person can do is read as much as they can, and then make up their own minds about what to do for the health and safety of their family and selves.
We all really need to stop treating this as a “us versus them” issue. The last time that was allowed to go on and on a war was fought and millions died.
What made America great was, above all – working on tolerance. Both sides acting out with hatred and violence is tearing the country apart. Don’t let hatred into yourself, if you must feel something for the “other side” feel pity.
At least that way if “your side” is proven wrong in the end, you won’t have to live with any guilt that was primarily given to you by others.
Don’t follow the crowd; educate yourself; keep your own counsel; advise don’t chastise.
Old wise saying; You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink.
And half the horses would question whether the water was drinkable.
They can’t question anything ! They don’t think like we are SUPPOSED TO ! But thinking is not allowed ! Questioning is NOT ALLOWED ! IF YOU DESAGREE YOU ARE CENSORED ! HOW IS THAT OK !? MY COMMENTS MAY VERY WELL BE REMOVED BECAUSE SOME ONE (?) CAN SAY ITS DISINFORMATION ! SO MUCH FOR TRUTH , FREEDOM TO CHOOSE WHAT I PUT IN MY BODY OR MY BABIES BODY !! HELLO WHATS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE !!? YOUR NOT THINKING OF THE REALITY OF WHATS GOING ON IN NOT JUST THIS COUNTRY BUT EVERYWHERE ! WHY ?? WHY IS THIS HAPPENING !? THIS VIRUS IS NOT DEADLY TO EVERYONE ! AND YOU GET NO TREATMENT IF YOU GET IT , UNTILL YOUR REALLY REALLY SICK !? WHY ?? WHY WHEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHOOSE WHAT WE TAKE FOR OUR SELVES !? IVERMECTIN KILLS NO ONE !? HELLO !!??
Yeah .. that’s all well and good , as that would be great if we had the freedom to choose , but we don’t ! They say get that vaccine or else !? Get your babies vaxed as well or else !! Now there is no freedom ! And no choice !! Now what do you have to say about that ? Our freedoms gone our jobs are under threat , our children are under threat , our lives are as well ! Forced is not choice!!! The world’s economy has been destroyed , people have died needlessly , good drugs are denied us ! What’s wrong with this picture ?? If you can’t see the real problem , you never will !! THAT IS THE REAL ISSUE HERE !!!
Saw “Fact Checkers” and I laughed. Fact Checkers are there to push agendas. They are not there to set the record straight. They are there to protect the current administration. If you look up who makes up the fact checkers they are from NY Times and other left leaning “news” (I use that very loosely) organizations. You should read fact checkers articles on how they are protecting this administration as it comes to the Afghanistan debacle.
Look outside this country for any information ! If your able to understand how to do this !! Never ever use a TV news show as your source !!! Thats just silly !!
Yes that’s another unfortunate FACT !! FACT CHECKERS WORK FOR WHO ? THATS A QUESTION YOU MUST LOOK INTO BEFORE YOU EXCEPT THEIR CONCLUSIONS !! A SMART HUMAN WHO USES THEIR BRAIN AND , DOES THEIR OWN RESEARCH , AND LOOKS BEYOND THE GOVERNMENT FOR INFORMATION ( considering how untrustworthy we should all know by now this government is !) SHOULD KNOW THIS ! that is if you REALLY DO WANT TRUTH !! Today people must trust no one , particularly when those who want your trust , have so much to gain financially !! Think about THAT for just a second !!!
Snopes has been discredited completely as it’s been proven to have a far-left bias (one of the founders is openly far-left). It’s not a good idea to use this for any fact checking as it may as well be another branch of MSM at this point.
Yeah… cause one can trust Snopes…. the site that has been proven to be biased and caught lying many times, and its President was recently fired or something for getting caught lying………..
Mr Bunch!! Snopes!! Haha! Ever heard of gaslighting. Unbelievable the level of critical thinking
Mr. Maki! Please see my reply to Austin Boil .
So how many deaths from the vaccine are you willing to accept. Like your bs snopes article said swine flu vaccine was pulled after 53 deaths…..
So you think Snopes is legitimate? Then you should listen to your own reasoning!
I did my own calculations based upon CDC data and determined the 45,000 was not at all credible. I am not a doctor or a scientist. I can do simple math and usually know when something does not pass the smell test. Forget Snopes! That misinformative figure, 45,000, should not have been included in a serious article about the vaccines. Our objective should be to seek the truth as opposed to scaring people to our side of a debate. For those who remain unconvinced, here is a better explanation of where that imaginary figure of 45,000 originated.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/07/fact-check-anonymous-whistleblower-did-not-document-45000-dead-from-covid-vaccine.html
To Christine and Heidi. The hiding of “negative data” results from pharmaceutical trials is well documented. An excellent resource on this subject can be found in a book called ‘Doctoring Data’ published (Columbus Publishing Ltd) in 2014 by UK’s Dr Malcolm Kendrick. He mentions specifically vaccine result data that is never published. So I ask the question: Who would be so naive as to believe we have been presented with all the research results from the mRNA tests? Cover-ups have happened in the past and they’re happening right now.
Agreed. Really dislike this reliance on polls, surveys, and statistics that aren’t fact checked as to how they were carried out.
I’ve worked in marketing research (and quit) in the past and it is very simple and easy to skew the outcome of any poll, survey or set of statistics by simply claiming one set of resulting data as irrelevant.
Irrelevant that is to the aims of the people or company doing the research.
No, after seeing what I saw I don’t put 100% trust in any such research.
To those who may not understand it’s as though 10,000 people are asked “Is the sky blue?” and the research company wants the result to be green. Anyone who says, “sometimes it’s teal (or aquamarine, or turquoise)”, those answers are kept while any answers where it’s stated “Yes, it’s blue” are thrown out as irrelevant. Only the answers kept will be counted as “respondents” and that’s how 70-100% answers on their “side” are gotten.
Peer review comes to mind.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history
Yes, it’s an old article, but it is not the only fine they’ve paid in this regard,
Another irritating point, and the article does touch on it, the medical reporting and data is laughably unreliable with regards to both covid deaths, VAERS, and what these numbers would be with correct early treatment methods. Treat most illnesses incorrectly and the hospitalization and death rates would spike. Sadly, follow the money….
Hey she only has 600 words 😉 I think it was a fantastic opinion with many good points.
Didn’t realize there was a word limit (thank you) and the article was absolutely fantastic covering a very broad range of issues to consider.
exactly…follow the money….same old song and dance
The CDC is a For Profit company (even says so on their web site) so where is the profit coming from?!?! Is it not the pharmaceutical companies?
I was wondering how long it would take before the FDA was brow-beat into approving the vaccines. Well, one for now. With all the money to be made I would imagine more will follow. One thing I am annoyed by is how many seem to think it is everyone else’s responsibility to protest their health. “It’s her job, his job, the county, state, or federal government’s job to protect me.” Yeah good luck with that. Pfft. Where is personal accountability? I kind of know the answer to this. At least in many cases.
As a person with an auto-immune disease and no immune system, I feel it is my personal responsibility. There is no way I am going to put my health in someone else’s hands. My body…my health…my immune system. Period. Also, my doctor has told me, no way on getting vaccinated. At least for now. She added in time, with more data we can revisit the matter. Consequently I honestly can’t tell you the last time I had the flu. My last cold was in 2017. I am careful and very cautious. With no immune system I need to be. I am not an anti-vaxer, but right now I do not feel comfortable getting any of the available vaccines. If I get Covid, I will either get better and have at least some natural immunity…or I won’t get better. I can’t cower and live in fear anymore. To some extent I have done that since I was diagnosed with my auto-immune disease. I am done with living like that.
Is your job at risk due to any shot mandates?
Of course who’s isn’t ,?? Now what is your answer to that ? ……. Waiting ……….
Too bad we now do not have an option to choose ! You need money to buy food to eat ! If you are threatened with losing your job if your not taking that shot … What do you do now ? They will not except any reason or excuse ! And if that shot kills you or disables you in anyway , you have nowhere to turn ! The vax people pharma company and everyone associated with these vaccine have total immunity from prosecution , now what do you do !? You cannot say I object on religious grounds either ! Now what !? Tell us , “all you take that vaccine pushers !? ” Tell us what YOU would do !?
So true Christine
Skip first 7 minutes
https://www.facebook.com/randy.hillier/videos/3071230013121442/
And it’s not a vaccine. It contains mRNA. It is changing us. It can be manipulated. True vaccines do not do this, do not work this way.
True vaccines kill the virus, these “treatments” being sold as a vaccine are ludicrous! Jabbed people are still catching Covid & spreading it. Nobody knows the long term affects & nobody will accept any liability for resulting health issues or death including Health insurance companies who deny claims because it’s an experimental, non-approved drug. If they approve it this week as we are hearing it’s another falsehood just giving politicians a tool to control people.The SARS jab had less than 20 people die and they pulled it off the market. These Covid jabs have killed thousands and resulted in long term health issues for many more than that. Politicians making my health related decisions isn’t going to happen!
Fun fact: a virus can not be killed, it’s not alive. It can go dominate and mutate over time.
Agree!!
Are you a scientist? Doctor? Immunologist? How long (in terms of years) have you studied communicable diseases?
Hows this?https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateVaccines/comments/paubin/dr_christina_parks_phd_in_cellular_and_molecular/
Hey Barb. That’s actually bullshit propaganda. She’s making many false claims. Nice try, though. Here’s all the reasons she’s full of shit. How’s this?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.deplatformdisease.com/blog/8n1jrpo8moi20b4lzoi0fkpfr3udgc%3fformat=amp
LOL Sure sure. Anything that doesn’t fit the narrative is propaganda.
And YOU ARE ? YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A SCIENTIST TO BE ABLE TO SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHATS HAPPENING ! AND YOU DONT HAVE TO BE ONE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO COMPLETE ANSWERS ! NOT WAIT 75 YEARS FOR THE INFORMATION TO BE AVAILABLE !? WHY IS EVERYTHING BEING HIDDEN !? WHY ARE WE BEING FORCED TO COMPLY ? THIS IS WRONG NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE ITS JUST WRONG !
Fantastic article!
Christine,
it is NOT necessarily the drug companies, themselves.Bill Gates, George Soros, Dr. Fauci and others, are making money hand over fist with this vaccine.
FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Like Fauci being connected to Phyzer
I don’t know what to believe.sure not sure about taking it. I guess it’s like the flu shot you get every year it’s not as bad if you take it.im gonna keep praying about this until I get peace.i guess if they have to come to the door with a gun.you can shoot me either way I know where I’m going. So it doesn’t matter. Until then.it took my husband forever to get me to take the flu shot.