
Clark County Today Editor Ken Vance discusses the application of the First Amendment in our country
Ken Vance, editor|
Clark County Today
Last week, Clark County Today reported on the social media activity of a Clark County employee that many find offensive and inappropriate. Renee Alsept has been a public defender in Clark County’s Public Defense Department since Nov. 1, 2024. During that time and before, she has routinely made profane social media posts about her hatred for President Trump and Trump supporters. In one post, she even referred to law enforcement as “pigs’’ and used the derogatory term of “Vantucky’’ to mock Vancouver residents.

The report received an abundance of feedback from readers. Many expressed their shock and disgust with Alsept’s behavior, citing the fact that her salary is paid by taxpayer dollars. However, many of those who responded did so in defense of Alsept and her right to express her opinions and beliefs on her own social media account. The majority of those who spoke in defense of Alsept, did so using the premise of freedom of speech.
The point I believe those commenters were missing is that freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom of consequences from that speech.
The First Amendment
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.’’ – The First Amendment
Wikipedia states, “Although the First Amendment applies only to state actors, there is a common misconception that it prohibits anyone from limiting free speech, including private, non-governmental entities. Moreover, the Supreme Court has determined that protection of speech is not absolute.’’
I’m far from a Constitutional scholar, but that appears to be Alsept’s saving grace in this situation. Even though it disgusts many of us that she will continue to receive a salary supported by our tax dollars, the county is likely forbidden to take state action in response to her behavior. I’m not suggesting county staff have the desire to take action, many of them likely agree with Alsept’s speech, which has apparently gone silent in the past week since her behavior was brought to the attention of her superiors. I would argue that freedom of speech should be more restricted by a government employee than a person in the private sector.
Let’s presume for the time being that Alsept’s speech is protected and the county has no ability to discipline her or terminate her employment. Is protecting that type of speech the true intent of the First Amendment? I don’t think it is. Remember, our Constitution was written by our founders who were fleeing persecution for their beliefs. Even if it is the intent of our founders, I don’t think that is what’s best for our society and our community.
Robert Charles Post made the following observation in The MIT Press Reader.
“Whatever freedom of speech might signify, it does not mean that unrestrained expression is inherently desirable,’’ Post wrote. “It does not mean that more speech is always better. One can see this clearly if one imagines the limit case. Those who cannot stop talking, who cannot exercise self-control, do not exemplify the value of free speech. They instead suffer from narcissism. Unrestrained expression may be appropriate for patients in primal scream therapy, but scarcely anywhere else.’’
I couldn’t agree more. I’m certainly guilty of expressing my frustration with the radicals on the other side of the ideological spectrum – mostly I find it entertaining to poke fun at them and antagonize them. I know, it’s low-hanging fruit. However, I don’t have any examples of speech similar to Alsept’s that has ever changed anyone’s mind, or improved our society in the very least. It serves no fundamental purpose other than as a venting exercise for the one spewing venom and hate.
I think if we were all honest with ourselves, we would admit that we believe it’s those who disagree with us who are the greatest abusers of the First Amendment. We each want our own speech to be protected, but we are far less interested in speech we disagree with being protected. So, it comes down to who among us can exercise the most self control. I will argue Alsept needs to practice more self control and maybe someone has already convinced her to do just that.
The winds they are a changing
I spent much of my career as a journalist covering sports, specifically the Portland Trail Blazers and the National Basketball Association. In 2020, former Sacramento Kings play-by-play announcer Grant Napear had his career ended over something he said. Former Sacramento player DeMarcus Cousins asked Napear (on social media) his thoughts on the Black Lives Matter movement. Napear responded, “Hey!!! How are you? Thought you forgot about me. Haven’t heard from you in years. ALL LIVES MATTER…EVERY SINGLE ONE.” The exchange happened a week after the killing of George Floyd, as protests were happening around the country.
After his termination, Napear sued his employer for wrongful termination. The company said its decision was justified, saying the decision to “not cast [plaintiff] following his divisive comment was itself an expression about the tone, style, and, indeed, the voice of commentary the station would deliver.” A federal judge ruled against Napear in his wrongful termination suit.
I met Napear on several occasions. I didn’t know him well enough to know what was in his heart when he said “all lives matter.’’ It certainly doesn’t seem to me like speech that would lead to the termination of employment, or stand up to a wrongful termination lawsuit. I know others have pre-determined that those three words are code for racism. Maybe I’m being naive, but I don’t believe they are.
It seems to me that “freedom of speech’’ in our country, and the interpretation of the First Amendment, are situational. And, that interpretation can be dependent on which way the political winds are blowing at the time in our country.
Right now, folks with my opinions and beliefs can rest comfortably at night. We have a president, Supreme Court and even a slim majority in Congress that protects our freedom of speech. During the previous administration, I felt like it was a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah and the free speech rights of folks like me were under attack. I could pen a number of columns with anecdotes about the attempts of others in recent years to censor both myself and Clark County Today. Thankfully, those attempts have been unsuccessful.
So, if Alsept and her defenders feel like they are now under attack, welcome to the modern times in the United States of America.
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The USA, no matter which party holds the current power at the time, routinely jails or imprisons more journalist and more citizens for what they said, not did, than any other country in the world which also claims to be “of the western nations.” AKA the allies of the USA. ARE WE NOT ALSO THE ONLY NATION WITH A BILL OF RIGHTS ENSHRING THE FREEDOM OF INDIVIDUAL SPEECH. 1984… WE ARE ALREADY THERE.
“The USA… routinely jails or imprisons more journalists and citizens for what they said, not did, than any other country in the world which also claims to be ‘of the western nations.’” This claim doesn’t hold up. According to organizations like the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) and Reporters Without Borders (RSF), the United States does not lead Western nations in jailing journalists. In fact countries like Turkey, Russia, and Belarus, journalists are jailed in far greater numbers.
“1984… WE ARE ALREADY THERE.” This is clearly rhetorical and intended to provoke
The U.S. is not a totalitarian state.
Oh, please. Spare me the “1984” cosplay. You’re acting like we’re dragging journalists off to gulags for mean tweets when in reality, this country has some of the strongest protections for speech on the planet.
You’re seriously claiming the U.S. imprisons more journalists and citizens for what they say than any other Western nation? That’s not just wrong—it’s laughable. Try glancing at actual press freedom indexes or reports from the Committee to Protect Journalists before spouting off like a budget Orwell. You’ll see countries like Turkey and Russia dominate the leaderboard on locking people up for speech. Meanwhile, your barista with a gender studies degree can still blog all day about how America is a fascist hellscape without a knock on the door.
And as for that gem—“ARE WE NOT THE ONLY NATION WITH A BILL OF RIGHTS”—well, no, we’re not. Plenty of Western countries enshrine speech protections. The U.S. just happens to do it better. But if you think free speech means “I should be able to say anything without anyone disagreeing or facing consequences,” maybe the problem isn’t the government—its more lack of understanding of what rights actually are.
“Right now, folks with my opinions and beliefs can rest comfortably at night. We have a president, Supreme Court and even a slim majority in Congress that protects our freedom of speech.”
This is an absolutely delusional take, Ken. Especially the same week that CBS essentially cancelled The Late Show because Stephen Colbert dared to mock the President.
See-BS cancelled Colbert because he was losing $40 Million a year.
Period. Paragraph. Full stop.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
I have some land in Florida to sell you.
So I guess we’re on Colin Kapernick’s side too? Or is this a one way belief system. Where was sports editor Ken Vance’s outrage about over that free speech display?
So I guess we’re on Colin Kapernick’s side too? For anyone reading please also search for Ken’s op-Ed “ My choice is to hold the National Anthem and flag as sacred”
Hypocrisy at its height.
The way Ken frames the 1st Amendment argument is similar to the way CCT frames the bias discussion. David Madore had his feelings hurt by how the media covered him so he started his own newspaper. Sure CCT has a clear bias, but the other newspaper was biased first so they justify doing whatever they want and ignoring journalistic integrity. Sure we fire, harass, or investigate anyone that exercises their 1st Amendment rights to criticize the President… but they censored us first! The only 1st Amendment “win” I’ve seen from the current administration is that it is more socially acceptable to call people f*gs, p*$$ies, and r*t*rds. So rest easy Clark County Today, your version of the 1st Amendment is safe. At least until the POTUS decides to eliminate it with an Executive Order the way he is trying to eliminate the 14th Amendment.
It would seem the consensus here, from much of the public and from the editor themselves, is that public officials that say things you don’t like should be fired or at least disciplined. I still haven’t seen an explanation for why this particular public employee should be held to a higher standard than other public employees?
And Ken, speaking of integrity and propriety, where does the fourth estate fall in these expectations of impartiality? Should the institution that is supposed to inform the public, speak truth to power, and facilitate public discourse be held to a higher standard than the common public? Should they only accept letters and opinion pieces that echo their beliefs? Should they only criticize one party? Should they insert themselves in the discussion threads to support those they agree with and shut down those they don’t agree with?
Your bias does not balance out their bias. Taking away their 1st Amendment rights doesn’t give you more 1st Amendment rights. An eye for an eye will leave the world blind.
Hello Jack …
If your position on the moral high ground is so firm and your interpretation of the First Amendment is so much better than mine, why do you hide behind a pseudonym when posting on Clark County Today?
If we are the echo chamber that you suggest, why have you been allowed for years to come on here and criticize me and everyone who shares my ideology even though you don’t have enough character and integrity to do so with your actual identity? I put my name and face on my opinions and beliefs and i get insulted and called every derogatory name in the book. Reality contradicts your assertions. And each time I challenge you you run and hide for long periods of time? Your actions are certainly not as virtuous as you present yourself to be. Where’s your tolerance for speech that doesn’t match your own? Where’s your courage to face the same consequences?
I have no moral high ground or special 1st amendment knowledge, I just believe we have a difference of opinion and I thought that was one of the things the comment section was for (the proverbial public square).
I registered as Jack Burton years ago because I noticed almost everyone used pseudonyms and no one seemed to care. We discussed this via email in the before time prior to Covid. We actually had some nice discussions, even on things we disagreed on. But it appears we couldn’t get past our differences on vaccines/public health/VAERS, etc. Since then I noticed staff in the comments more, supporting some points of view while challenging others. About this time you jumped into the comments to protect one commenter from me when I asked them to clarify a claim they made. Then you used me (and others) as a straw man in one of your editorials. This seemed kind of a “cross the Rubicon” moment to me, and I admittedly stopped engaging. I also lived in another state for a year, but fear of what was going on in that state motivated me to engage again when I came home.
Lately I’ve noticed someone does care about pseudonyms, but it seems like they only care if you disagree with the consensus here.
That covers the first reply to my questions, now I’ll try and tackle the second.
Yes, I believe that CCT is an echo chamber. You “allow” me here, that’s true. I’m not sure that alone precludes CCT from being an echo chamber.
I never recall calling you names, but I assume you wouldn’t have included that if I hadn’t, so I apologize for any names I called you. I will, however, admit that I have always had a problem with term “integrity” in your motto. Not to impeach your personal integrity, but rather the circumstances around how CCT began and operates. In short, I specifically mean journalistic integrity as it relates to bias and picking sides. I suppose this really sticks in my craw because I have to hear how biased everyone other news outlet is, as if this is the lone oasis impartiality.
I’m not sure asking questions is virtuous or not, but I will say I do not consider myself particularly virtuous. Do all people on here that use pseudonyms, only first names, or other fake names lack virtue?
And when have I tried to limit anyone’s speech? People can say what they want, but it doesn’t prevent there from being consequences (sound familiar)…. sometimes the consequence here is a question or comment back. Here are a few comments I have pushed back on, but I never advocated censoring or silencing them (I’m paraphrasing from memory here):
“The keto diet cures late stage colon cancer and walks outside cure asthma.”
-Wolfie
This one was so over the top I was admittedly surprised there was so little response.
“The Covid vaccine is more harmful than Covid.”
-Sylvia
I asked her “You really believe that after a million Americans have died of Covid?” and you jumped into the comments to tell me “that’s not what she meant” before she could respond. I always found this odd since she was arguably the most prolific commenter of the Covid era. I always wondered why someone felt they needed to come in and protect her.
“Black people commit more crime than white people.”
-Some woman commenting on the article years ago about vandalism at a Washougal School Board meeting
This one is noteworthy because I thought it might get some pushback from a moderator.
Now that we have established I lack virtue and integrity, can we get back to the questions on how journalism fits into the narrative of integrity, impartiality, and propriety? Should they be held to a higher standard? You’ve been in journalism a long time and must have thoughts on this. Also, why should some public officials be silenced while others should be lauded for saying what they think?
Here is my last line from my previous post rewritten to be a little less confrontational (it wasn’t meant to be initially, but a reread makes me see it could be perceived that way):
My bias does not cancel out your bias. Taking away your 1st Amendment rights does not give me more 1st Amendment rights. An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.
This is a privately funded community news website. Our content is free to consume and free not to consume. Same price for either. We are beholden to no one. If you don’t like what you see you are free to move right along. Or you can just continue your self-righteous, hypocritical loathing and whining which obviously has absolutely zero impact on my editorial decisions.
“I know others have pre-determined that those three words are code for racism. Maybe I’m being naive, but I don’t believe they are.”
Since Editor Vance used Wikipedia earlier in the above fantasy-inspired option piece, let me do the same to help educate him:
“All Lives Matter is a slogan that emerged as a negative response to the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement,[1][2][3][4] initially popularized on social media following the police killings of Michael Brown and Eric Garner in 2014. The phrase has been widely criticized as denying that police violence and discrimination disproportionately affect Black Americans, or that it misinterprets “Black Lives Matter” as not a recognition of that disproportionate treatment but as meaning other lives mean less.” More on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter
Does that help?
As to the outrageous assertion that we “have a president, Supreme Court and even a slim majority in Congress that protects our freedom of speech,” Vance is either not paying attention to the news beyond our county or he is hopelessly blinded by partisan bias. As only one example, witness Trump’s efforts to remake the college/university system into his own image.
Jeez. And we still have so many more years and months to go.