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		By: Dr D. Nelson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2022 06:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well this article didn&#039;t age well, turns out the Israeli study was flawed and misinterpreted.

The study actually determined just the opposite of what this article is claiming.

It turns out vaccine induced immunity is actually substantially stronger and more consistent than natural immunity.

The reason countries like Israel see more hospitalizations from vaccinated individuals than unvaccinated individuals is because the majority of the country is vaccinated.

The same thing is happening in the United Kingdom with older individuals.

Between January 31st and February 27th there were 958 individuals age 70 and older who died from COVID-19

During that same time. Only 365 unvaxed individuals over the age of 70 died.

Anti-vaxxers are posting this as some sort of evidence that the vaccine is not effective because more vaccinated people are dying.

This is extremely unethical and an intentional misinterpretation of facts.

In the United Kingdom The vaccination rate for those 70 and older is nearly 98%

That means The vaccinated deaths came from a pool of 5.3 million 70+ representing a per capita rate of just 0.018%

The unvaccinated deaths came from a pool of just 108,000 representing a per capita rate of 0.33%

In case your mouth is bad that&#039;s a 1733% increase in mortality rate for the unvaccinated 70 and over

Even though the number of vaccinated in the hospital exceeded the number of unvaccinated the per capita rates was nearly 1,733% higher for unvaccinated individuals.

That&#039;s why antivaxers like to use raw numbers rather than per capita rates. 

They&#039;ll show you a meme that shows some country just had 958 vaccinated people die from covid meanwhile only 365 unvaccinated people died.

What they don&#039;t want you to know is the per capita rate and that those 958 vaccinated people come from a substantially larger pool than the unvaccinated.

So bear in mind when someone tries to convince you that the vaccine isn&#039;t effective by posting wrong numbers insist that they show you the per capita rate of mortality and infection rates rather than just the raw numbers as raw numbers are meaningless without a metric to gauge them with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this article didn&#8217;t age well, turns out the Israeli study was flawed and misinterpreted.</p>
<p>The study actually determined just the opposite of what this article is claiming.</p>
<p>It turns out vaccine induced immunity is actually substantially stronger and more consistent than natural immunity.</p>
<p>The reason countries like Israel see more hospitalizations from vaccinated individuals than unvaccinated individuals is because the majority of the country is vaccinated.</p>
<p>The same thing is happening in the United Kingdom with older individuals.</p>
<p>Between January 31st and February 27th there were 958 individuals age 70 and older who died from COVID-19</p>
<p>During that same time. Only 365 unvaxed individuals over the age of 70 died.</p>
<p>Anti-vaxxers are posting this as some sort of evidence that the vaccine is not effective because more vaccinated people are dying.</p>
<p>This is extremely unethical and an intentional misinterpretation of facts.</p>
<p>In the United Kingdom The vaccination rate for those 70 and older is nearly 98%</p>
<p>That means The vaccinated deaths came from a pool of 5.3 million 70+ representing a per capita rate of just 0.018%</p>
<p>The unvaccinated deaths came from a pool of just 108,000 representing a per capita rate of 0.33%</p>
<p>In case your mouth is bad that&#8217;s a 1733% increase in mortality rate for the unvaccinated 70 and over</p>
<p>Even though the number of vaccinated in the hospital exceeded the number of unvaccinated the per capita rates was nearly 1,733% higher for unvaccinated individuals.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why antivaxers like to use raw numbers rather than per capita rates. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ll show you a meme that shows some country just had 958 vaccinated people die from covid meanwhile only 365 unvaccinated people died.</p>
<p>What they don&#8217;t want you to know is the per capita rate and that those 958 vaccinated people come from a substantially larger pool than the unvaccinated.</p>
<p>So bear in mind when someone tries to convince you that the vaccine isn&#8217;t effective by posting wrong numbers insist that they show you the per capita rate of mortality and infection rates rather than just the raw numbers as raw numbers are meaningless without a metric to gauge them with.</p>
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		By: Dr E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2022 01:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the CDC is full of crap]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the CDC is full of crap</p>
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		By: Scott Hooper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Hooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 17:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem is that there are been many such studies, most of which show the vaccine to be superior.  It&#039;s not surprising that one or a few studies disagree; scientists are human too.

Do you remember a few years back when Israel claimed to have cured cancer?  I question their reports.

Here is a more recent one to consider:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-06629-2]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that there are been many such studies, most of which show the vaccine to be superior.  It&#8217;s not surprising that one or a few studies disagree; scientists are human too.</p>
<p>Do you remember a few years back when Israel claimed to have cured cancer?  I question their reports.</p>
<p>Here is a more recent one to consider:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-06629-2" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-06629-2</a></p>
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		By: Silly humans		</title>
		<link>https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-9444</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silly humans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 22:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-5808&quot;&gt;MikeinSonoma&lt;/a&gt;.

Reality fits most normal people&#039;s narrative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-5808">MikeinSonoma</a>.</p>
<p>Reality fits most normal people&#8217;s narrative.</p>
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		By: Silly humans		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silly humans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 21:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why was this article burried 30 links down on my Google search?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was this article burried 30 links down on my Google search?</p>
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		By: Sri		</title>
		<link>https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-9414</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2022 19:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-6498&quot;&gt;KStarr&lt;/a&gt;.

This. I consider myself a left liberal and im vaxxed three times already. But I don’t believe vaccines are better than the infection in anyway. And to say vaccines are better without accounting for the survivorship is so stupid. The Israeli study is trustworthy and Israelis are science obsessed - they won’t let dogma or  stupidity to cloud tamper with science. 

if you got Covid before, you shouldn’t be required to take vaccine for at least six months. That’s just dumb.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-6498">KStarr</a>.</p>
<p>This. I consider myself a left liberal and im vaxxed three times already. But I don’t believe vaccines are better than the infection in anyway. And to say vaccines are better without accounting for the survivorship is so stupid. The Israeli study is trustworthy and Israelis are science obsessed &#8211; they won’t let dogma or  stupidity to cloud tamper with science. </p>
<p>if you got Covid before, you shouldn’t be required to take vaccine for at least six months. That’s just dumb.</p>
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		By: Gregory		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2022 14:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-6507&quot;&gt;Bailey Hanes&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, this is the most reasonable post in the whole comments section and I think mostly everyone agrees with this despite the fights. Everyone is fighting over nothing. 

I came here because they&#039;re on the edge of making the booster mandatory here in Australia, but I just got exposed to covid with no symptoms whatsoever so I don&#039;t think I should&lt;span&gt; be mandated to get it as I&#039;m protected by natural immunity which is better than vaccine immunity. &lt;/span&gt;This is despite getting the first two jabs because obviously they would protect me in the first place (and might be why I got no symptoms).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-6507">Bailey Hanes</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, this is the most reasonable post in the whole comments section and I think mostly everyone agrees with this despite the fights. Everyone is fighting over nothing. </p>
<p>I came here because they&#8217;re on the edge of making the booster mandatory here in Australia, but I just got exposed to covid with no symptoms whatsoever so I don&#8217;t think I should<span> be mandated to get it as I&#8217;m protected by natural immunity which is better than vaccine immunity. </span>This is despite getting the first two jabs because obviously they would protect me in the first place (and might be why I got no symptoms).</p>
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		By: Pedro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pedro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 04:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where is the reference to the original study report? I want to read the entire report.
This summary of the report does not state the death rate, rate of hospitalisation and serious illness of vaccinated people having &quot;natural immunity&quot; versus unvaccinated people with &quot;natural immunity&quot;. Death and serious illness are the main issues to be avoided with Covid19.
The overall tenor of any report must be evaluated, and not cherry-picking sensational excerpts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the reference to the original study report? I want to read the entire report.<br />
This summary of the report does not state the death rate, rate of hospitalisation and serious illness of vaccinated people having &#8220;natural immunity&#8221; versus unvaccinated people with &#8220;natural immunity&#8221;. Death and serious illness are the main issues to be avoided with Covid19.<br />
The overall tenor of any report must be evaluated, and not cherry-picking sensational excerpts.</p>
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		By: MikeinSonoma		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeinSonoma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 23:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-5808&quot;&gt;MikeinSonoma&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually this is beautiful wine country with majestic redwoods.

You know they do have treatment for Tourette’s syndrome…

Now, I’m going to go back to my beautiful life that I have earned.  I will leave you with your excuses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-5808">MikeinSonoma</a>.</p>
<p>Actually this is beautiful wine country with majestic redwoods.</p>
<p>You know they do have treatment for Tourette’s syndrome…</p>
<p>Now, I’m going to go back to my beautiful life that I have earned.  I will leave you with your excuses.</p>
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		By: Hank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 23:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-6714&quot;&gt;MikeinSonoma&lt;/a&gt;.

So what&#039;s worse, taking showers with your then 14-year old daughter,  swimming naked in front of FBI and DOJ  police women, sniffing girl&#039;s hair, accepting bribes from Russia and China in order to support Hunter&#039;s massive drug habit?  Like Fauci and his bankers Soros and Gates, the cockeyed and twisted Hunter is going down.   

It&#039;s nice to be a Brandon!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/#comment-6714">MikeinSonoma</a>.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s worse, taking showers with your then 14-year old daughter,  swimming naked in front of FBI and DOJ  police women, sniffing girl&#8217;s hair, accepting bribes from Russia and China in order to support Hunter&#8217;s massive drug habit?  Like Fauci and his bankers Soros and Gates, the cockeyed and twisted Hunter is going down.   </p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to be a Brandon!</p>
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