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		By: Janet Roxburgh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Janet Roxburgh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 17:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much Clark County Today for this excellent article!! Well done!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much Clark County Today for this excellent article!! Well done!</p>
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		By: John Ley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Ley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/what-good-is-a-shiny-new-bridge-when-our-kids-cant-safely-cross-the-street-in-our-neighborhoods/#comment-16177&quot;&gt;Nike&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said. The &quot;real&quot; bottleneck in the Portland metro region is the 2-lane section of I-5 at the Rose Quarter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/what-good-is-a-shiny-new-bridge-when-our-kids-cant-safely-cross-the-street-in-our-neighborhoods/#comment-16177">Nike</a>.</p>
<p>Well said. The &#8220;real&#8221; bottleneck in the Portland metro region is the 2-lane section of I-5 at the Rose Quarter.</p>
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		By: Melissa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melissa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 04:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A bridge should prioritize facilitating people crossing, not climate change — a quasi-science, quasi-religious ideology. And 7.5+ Billion is an obscene price tag.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bridge should prioritize facilitating people crossing, not climate change — a quasi-science, quasi-religious ideology. And 7.5+ Billion is an obscene price tag.</p>
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		By: Nike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 03:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The unfortunate fact about &quot;the Bridge&quot; is the following: &quot;the Bridge&quot; could be 20 lanes wide in each direction, and every party could get everything they want in &quot;the Bridge&quot;, but, (and you just knew there was going to be a &quot;but&quot;), the problem is not, and never was the current bridge over the creek. The traffic congestion problem is 1.5 miles south of the current bridge where traffic comes to a complete stop due to the antiquated road system and adjoining on-feeders dumping far more cars onto the current insufficient &quot;highway&quot;. Maybe 30 years ago, I-5 just south of the current bridge was sufficient  for the traffic southbound on I-5, but I-5 southbound is no longer even sufficient, it is not just insufficient to handle the traffic load, it is incapable of handling the traffic load. Same for northbound I-5 just south of the bridge: far too many on-feeders adding to the already clogged northbound I-5. I&#039;m sure that most of the people that have to commute back into Washington will attest to the fact that once at the 14 off-ramp, congestion somehow just disappears. 

However, TPTB will continue to push for a &quot;new&quot; bridge, but never recognize that the current bridge in not the problem: Portlands antiquated and insufficient highway system is THE Problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unfortunate fact about &#8220;the Bridge&#8221; is the following: &#8220;the Bridge&#8221; could be 20 lanes wide in each direction, and every party could get everything they want in &#8220;the Bridge&#8221;, but, (and you just knew there was going to be a &#8220;but&#8221;), the problem is not, and never was the current bridge over the creek. The traffic congestion problem is 1.5 miles south of the current bridge where traffic comes to a complete stop due to the antiquated road system and adjoining on-feeders dumping far more cars onto the current insufficient &#8220;highway&#8221;. Maybe 30 years ago, I-5 just south of the current bridge was sufficient  for the traffic southbound on I-5, but I-5 southbound is no longer even sufficient, it is not just insufficient to handle the traffic load, it is incapable of handling the traffic load. Same for northbound I-5 just south of the bridge: far too many on-feeders adding to the already clogged northbound I-5. I&#8217;m sure that most of the people that have to commute back into Washington will attest to the fact that once at the 14 off-ramp, congestion somehow just disappears. </p>
<p>However, TPTB will continue to push for a &#8220;new&#8221; bridge, but never recognize that the current bridge in not the problem: Portlands antiquated and insufficient highway system is THE Problem.</p>
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		By: John Ley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Ley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 00:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Portland economist Joe Cortright threw water on the IBR team&#039;s claim about inflation. He pointed out that their Nov. 2020 updated cost estimates of $3.2 billion to $4.8 billion were inflated to &quot;Year of Expenditure&quot;. So the 50-70% increase in costs were NOT due to inflation.

Imagine a corporate Board of Directors being pitched the largest project in corporate history. After 3 years and the expenditure of $50-$60 million, the cost has nearly DOUBLED, and they they only have a &quot;conceptual design&quot; and no specific cost estimates.

Surely the management team would be fired!

https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/mediaplayer?clientID=4879615486&#038;eventID=2022121059&#038;startStreamAt=9302&#038;stopStreamAt=9460]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Portland economist Joe Cortright threw water on the IBR team&#8217;s claim about inflation. He pointed out that their Nov. 2020 updated cost estimates of $3.2 billion to $4.8 billion were inflated to &#8220;Year of Expenditure&#8221;. So the 50-70% increase in costs were NOT due to inflation.</p>
<p>Imagine a corporate Board of Directors being pitched the largest project in corporate history. After 3 years and the expenditure of $50-$60 million, the cost has nearly DOUBLED, and they they only have a &#8220;conceptual design&#8221; and no specific cost estimates.</p>
<p>Surely the management team would be fired!</p>
<p><a href="https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/mediaplayer?clientID=4879615486&#038;eventID=2022121059&#038;startStreamAt=9302&#038;stopStreamAt=9460" rel="nofollow ugc">https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/mediaplayer?clientID=4879615486&#038;eventID=2022121059&#038;startStreamAt=9302&#038;stopStreamAt=9460</a></p>
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		By: Susan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 23:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Upwards of $7.5 billion? And we all know it will eventually pan out to 20% more... so upwards of $9 billion once completed?!?!

Am I the only one who thinks Greg et al need a dose of reality? Are they out of their friggin&#039; minds? We don&#039;t need a cathedral-like monument; we need a simple bridge for cars, trucks, and buses. Period.

In all likelihood, this estimate of billions of dollars has put the final nail in the coffin.... it&#039;ll never happen. Again. The involved States won&#039;t pony-up enough, the Feds won&#039;t pony-up enough, and the citizens won&#039;t stand for the tolls that will be needed to pay for the thing.

Count me out.  Oh, and I&#039;ll continue to monitor which of our elected leaders are supporting this boondoggle and I&#039;ll be helping to vote them out next time, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upwards of $7.5 billion? And we all know it will eventually pan out to 20% more&#8230; so upwards of $9 billion once completed?!?!</p>
<p>Am I the only one who thinks Greg et al need a dose of reality? Are they out of their friggin&#8217; minds? We don&#8217;t need a cathedral-like monument; we need a simple bridge for cars, trucks, and buses. Period.</p>
<p>In all likelihood, this estimate of billions of dollars has put the final nail in the coffin&#8230;. it&#8217;ll never happen. Again. The involved States won&#8217;t pony-up enough, the Feds won&#8217;t pony-up enough, and the citizens won&#8217;t stand for the tolls that will be needed to pay for the thing.</p>
<p>Count me out.  Oh, and I&#8217;ll continue to monitor which of our elected leaders are supporting this boondoggle and I&#8217;ll be helping to vote them out next time, too.</p>
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